The Notetaker Was Not Admitted to Your Meeting
If nobody lets the Groupthink notetaker into your call, the meeting is not captured at all. There is no transcript, no notes, and no recap. Nothing partial is saved.
This is the most common reason a meeting comes back empty. The notetaker did reach your call. It asked to be let in, waited outside, and was never admitted, so it never heard anything.
What happens
When your call uses a waiting room, a lobby, or host admission, the Groupthink notetaker arrives and asks to join like any other guest. It appears in the participant list as Groupthink.
Someone already in the meeting has to admit it. Until that happens the notetaker hears nothing at all, so there is nothing to transcribe and nothing to summarize. Groupthink does not produce a partial recap from the part of the meeting it missed, because it did not capture any of it.
The notetaker does not wait forever. It waits at least 10 minutes, and up to 25, and it stops once your meeting was scheduled to end. After that it gives up and the meeting is marked as one Groupthink could not capture. In most cases we then email you to say the notetaker could not get in.
If you are the meeting organizer
Watch for the admission prompt at the start of the call and let Groupthink in. On most platforms this appears as a notification asking you to admit a waiting participant.
The prompt is easy to miss when the meeting is already underway and people are talking, so it is worth checking the waiting room once after the first minute or two, before anything you want captured has been said.
If you are not the organizer
You may not be able to admit the notetaker yourself. Whether a non-host can let a guest in depends on the conferencing platform and on how that specific meeting was set up, so it is not something Groupthink can change from our side.
If you cannot admit it, you have two options:
- Ask the meeting owner to admit Groupthink. Whoever is hosting can let it in, and once it is in, everything from that point forward is captured normally.
- Record privately through the desktop app instead. The Private with App option records the call through the Groupthink desktop app on your own machine. Nothing joins the call, so there is no waiting room to get past and nobody needs to admit anything. See Private Desktop Recording and Starting a Meeting.
Option 2 is the reliable fix if you regularly sit in meetings you do not host.
What the meeting looks like in Groupthink
The meeting is still there, but its recap page has no summary and no transcript on it.
Right now that empty page does not always name the reason. Depending on the meeting, it may tell you there is no audio and that nothing more will appear, or it may read as though processing has not finished. Either way, once the notetaker was never admitted, no notes are coming. If a meeting has been over for more than about 15 minutes and the page is still empty, treat it as a failed capture rather than waiting longer.
We know this is confusing and we are working on making the reason explicit on the page instead of leaving you to infer it.
Recovering the meeting you already lost
The conversation itself is not lost to your relationship history. If you have notes or a transcript from any other source, you can log them against the meeting and Groupthink will read them. See Recover Your Notes When the Notetaker Misses a Meeting.
Frequently Asked Questions
What name does the notetaker use in the waiting room?
It appears as Groupthink in the participant list.
Will I get a partial recap of the part it did attend?
No. If the notetaker was never admitted it captured nothing, so there is no partial transcript and no partial summary. If it was admitted late, you get everything from the moment it was let in onward, but nothing said before that.
How long will the notetaker wait?
At least 10 minutes and at most 25, and it stops once your meeting was scheduled to end. Admitting it late still works, and you get the rest of the meeting from that point.
Is there a setting that makes it get admitted automatically?
Not in Groupthink. Admission is controlled by your conferencing platform and by the settings on that meeting, not by anything on the Groupthink side. If you want capture that never depends on being admitted, use Private with App desktop recording instead.
Does this affect private desktop recordings?
No. A private desktop recording runs on your own machine and never joins the call as a participant, so there is no waiting room involved.
Related
- Starting a Meeting
- Recover Your Notes When the Notetaker Misses a Meeting
- Troubleshooting Private Meeting Recording
- Google Meet
- Zoom
- Microsoft Teams
- Known Issues
Still not sure why a meeting came back empty? Email us at support@groupthink.com and we can look at that specific meeting.